This is especially relevant given that with the loss of the northern half and the Moro Sultanate still being a thing, I could really see the French just giving away what they see as a undesirable colony surrounded by hostile powers in exchange for having the Japanese on their side, especially given by that time, the spices the East Indies produced weren't as valuable as they had been before so the French wouldn't mind the Japanese controlling/having heavy influence over Indonesia as they would focus more on India as well as having formal ties with the Indochinese countries such as Siam and Vietnam
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Okay, to further elaborate more about the Proto-Banzai Charge tactic idea, the best equivalent I can think of is OTL Swedish Carloean tactics, were it an emphasis on a shock charges and aggression, where they get up close, fire volleys from their muskets, and then charge with pikes and swords.
Maybe a similar doctrine can form out of combination of Ashigaru musketeers and Yari Ashigaru, focusing on shock and aggression against the enemy troops.
If Japan sides with France and the French-aligned side wins the Bourbon Wars, could we see territorial acquisition in the Asia-Pacific Region? Say Dutch controlled areas of Indonesia handed over to the French?
And if yes then what might the French call their new colonial holdings?
And if yes then what might the French call their new colonial holdings?
Think about the possibility of portions of the Spice Trade controlled by Azuchi (or more controlled).
Yeah, that's basically the divided thing here, as frankly siding with whomever will benefit Azuchi in the end.
Siding with Dutch and therefore Anti-Bourbons means being able to attack Spanish Philippines, which is closer to home and allows for easier resources and possibly easier to integrate. Though, the problem I see is if the Habsburgs win and gain Spain, they're going to want the Philippines back. Also, another problem I see with taking expulsing the Spanish from the Manila means a disruption of the Manila-Acapulco Trade
Siding with the French Pro-Bourbons means being to attack the Dutch in the East Indies. Controlling basically means monopolizing the Spice Trade. Another possibility is that this opens more avenues to India.
I kinda see with the Europeans trying to court Japan into the war is that it'll be letting the Genie out of the Bottle, given that Japan will be cracking skulls and taking someone's territory in Asia, no matter what side. Unless they can rope in another Asian power like China or Korea, but that's probably unlikely.
There also another thing to consider: The war in Europe, as IOTL, the Joseph I died in the middle of it, making Charles VI the heir to both Spain and Austria, which didn't go well for the Anti-Bourbon alliance, since they didn't want Charles V 2: Electro Bugaloo.
Given that there are changes to the War such as Brandenburg being Neutral, we'll have to see how that's develop.
On second thought, correction: gunpowder infantry is partially levy ashigaru-based, the elite units are samurai and are raised first. So for example, there were levies during the Asiatic Northern War but none for the Ezo campaign or the anti-Yebusu Amur intervention.
I might need to course correct on this one but it seems most of the great fires were in Edo IOTL (and apparently a ton in Nagasaki too). They were two major earthquakes tho.
The Japanese infantry was tactically Carolean in many ways from the mid-17th century onwards.
I just think sea cucumber extraction ports are possible if Japan gets to Papua new Guinea, but most of it is desert, so anyone going from the north isn't getting much mileage out of the region.
Maybe Japan colonises it to check Dutch expansion but that's about it.
If we have an amur front between Japan, Joseon and Russia it's ball. And even tho Russia probably be fighting in the great northern war of otl around this time of we see Sweden and Denmark in the fight we may see Russia come in on both sides of Eurasia if needs be.
Yeah I think it'd be mutually beneficial for both sides to make such a deal, it ensures Japanese domination over Chinese silver markets (which would be disrupted by the war in the Philippines no matter what happens) while the french and Spanish focus their energies on India and the Americas respectively (even tho Spanish power would continue to wane).
I see them being more like Scottish highland charges, with the fighters dropping the musket and charging with their swords. With wakizashi being the more common blade I can see them being common weapons of the infantry.
@Ambassador Huntsman do the Japanese try to skirt around sword laws by packaging them as being 'big wakizashi' and big knives like how the Germans made messer swords.
And we're likely to see them and the Scandinavians come in I think.
Yeah along with conch trumpets.
Katanas are mainly used and not so much wakizashi.
But commoners can't have katanas as property right? Since Nobunaga confiscated the swords? Or is it more of a thing where the swords are documented by the government?
Honestly, with the Bourbon reforms coming up and the major revisions it did to the way the colonies were run, Spanish power could remain consolidated, as long as they get good kings and don't suffer something like a Napelonic invasion
If it’s within the shogunal army ranks, it’s documented although there are a few who manage to sneak off with weapons, though there really haven’t been any consequences from that.