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Vote on the Chinese internal Civil War
Vote on the Chinese internal Civil War:
A) LON Intervention (but for what side however?)
B) At least limit weapons going to the warring sides and support civilians with food, medicine and other goods.
C) What Chinese Civil War? Is there something going on in China interfering with our trade there?
D) Set up a own Chinese Government option, one mediated between the factions and taking a wide variety of Chinese Federalists and Ideas into account.
A) LON Intervention (but for what side however?)
B) At least limit weapons going to the warring sides and support civilians with food, medicine and other goods.
C) What Chinese Civil War? Is there something going on in China interfering with our trade there?
D) Set up a own Chinese Government option, one mediated between the factions and taking a wide variety of Chinese Federalists and Ideas into account.
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maybe it wont be a war as in Otl, but its already too late to prevent it - to put it simply too many states (Germany,France,Italy,USSR and Japan to lesser extent) are interested in creating a new international order favourable for them.
Right now the world is divided into three power blocks who will fight for a local,continental and global domination
1. Democratic bloc (US/UK/Japan)
2. Nationalist powers (Franco-Polish alliance/Germany/Italy)
3. Communist/socialist bloc - USSR
My prediction is that the war will begin with a conflict between Germany and Franco-Polish alliance and then we will see how the conflict will go and how alliances would be formed later.
I wouldnt event count on unity within democratic bloc as in my opinion there would be a struggle about who should be a leader of the free world: USA or allied UK and Japan as both sides are for now equal more or less and balance each other for now
B)
Straight intervention by the LON would be costly and could lead to unforeseen consequences.
Straight intervention by the LON would be costly and could lead to unforeseen consequences.
A). Don't know if it's an option ,but I personally dislike both sides and would like to see an LON intervention force install a new more stable federalist government in place.
A interesting idea, what kind of new federalist government? a exiled overseas Chinese one? surely many would pop up for that job, so wich one would be the legitimate? Will add it so if anyone wishes, they can adjust their vote ;D
For all intents and purposes, I don't have an idea for the who, but I prefer a LON's installed federalist government instead of the USSR-phile socialists or the centralized KMT government. Mostly to have Chinese government more conducive to local self rule, especially minority groups.
Heh, I'm now reminded of an idea I had; creation of a constitutional monarchy with the new "royal family", the return of the House of Zhu. To quote myself:
Links don't work regarding Zhu Jianfan, but yeah, would be something of fascination and consideration.
So Zhu Jianfan as Grand Chancellor of a constitutional Chinese Republic? Interesting.
No. Zhu Jianfan as the emperor with Sun Yat-sen as the Grand Chancellor in a constitutional monarch. Zhu would have no real ruling power... but he would have plenty of soft power as the emperor and one belonging to the previous Ming dynasty, a return of glory of sorts.
Given how the "Mandate of Heaven" would still have a prominent weight over on the people, he would be able to use his station to influence the people toward progressive ideals. Combined with his accomplishments, he would be able to inspire his people alot and provide a solid foundation for the movement of the culture while Sun would focus on the actual political reforms and power.
Sun is sadly allready dead by now (liver chancer most likely like OTL), but we could find a replacement for him. Yeah I can see many Han Chinese fealing the Ming being much more legitimate then the Manchu Qing Dynasty.
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Yeah, I reckon. Was just an idea I had and unsure if Zhu Jianfan would be alive (he died in the 1930s, but he was pnly in his 50s and have not found cause of his death so he could still be alive). And yeah, glad you enjoy my idea though unsure how viable it is by now (mainly since he'd have the best shot of convincing everyone of this idea)
Has anyone a overall list ov claimants to the Chinese Throne at the time and how legitimate these were in general somewhere on the web?
I don't think so. I found out about Jianfian from info on the House of Zhu and he fit in perfectly for someone China would need. Though I imagine this late in the game, may be too tricky for monarchy.